Rich Man, Poor Man, Forgiveness and Faithful Slaves

This is the Bible Study page for the Thursday Night Bible Study Group meeting September 22 to study Luke 16:19 through 17:10.  We didn't get through the "Rich Man & Lazarus", so will focus on that for this week.

The parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus is interesting for lots of reasons.  One of them is the various ways that translations relate the story.  The details are the same, just the word choice was changed.  The real differences between translations is found in the 10 verses of chapter 17.  Be sure to use different translations, I really think it will open up new avenues of understanding; and it's easy to do.

Read through these passages making notes and jotting down questions that occur to you.  The two passages aren't easy to connect, and don't need to be.  They can be, but doing so is an interpretation, not a necessity.  It might be a good exercise though.  See if you can summarize the 10 verses of chapter 17 into a single sentence.  It will be tough, and probably a complex sentence, but give it a try.

Read through some commentaries on the Blue Letter Bible site.  See how they change your comments and questions.  Then go back through the passage with the questions below:

• The parable of the "Rich Man & Lazarus" begins with the setting of the two characters in verses 19 through 21.  What are your first impressions?  Why do you think Jesus made them so incredibly opposite?
• The rich guy ends up in hell, and Lazarus in "heaven".  Why?  What clues do you have for why one went one place and the other to the other?
• The description of the "after-life" is pretty spooky, one side can see the other but neither can get to the other.  What do you think of that?
• Hell (Hades) is "torment" in verse 23, or "agony" due to "flame" in verse 24.  What do you think of this description, in agonizing torment by fire yet able to see the other side where they aren't?
• Notice Lazarus never speaks in this parable.  Why do you think might be important to Jesus' point?
• Abraham has several comments on the rich man's situation (verses 25, 26, and 29), they get progressively more depressing (from irreconcilable agony to it being his own fault).  What do you think of this assessment of the description of this afterlife?
• The rich man constantly wants Lazarus to do this or that, come here, go there.  What does this tell you about the rich man's understanding of himself and Lazarus?  How different do you think this is from when they were both alive?
• Obviously Abraham's final statement relates to Jesus' resurrection and people's persistent unbelief.  Why do you think Jesus would include that to people following Him closely?  What does that tell you about people, even those who follow Him closely?
•  Jesus turns again to His disciples, but remember that this group seems to include some Pharisees.  So, why do you think the topic of "stumbling blocks" is suddenly important, or even in anyway related to the previous parable?
• Jesus refers to "little ones", but who do you think He means?  (hint:  look in parallel verses in Mark and Matthew)
• How do you think verses 3 and 4 apply to our modern approach to "boundaries"?  Is such a person "safe", and how would you relate to such a person having "forgiven" him/her?
• Compare these two verses with Matthew 18:15-17.  What do you make of the differences?
• Compare these two verses with John 20:23.  What do you make of the differences here?
• The disciples ask for Jesus to "increase their faith".  How does a mustard seed-sized faith "increase" their faith?
• Why do you think Luke uses a "mulberry tree" instead of a mountain, like Matthew?
• Consider verses 7 through 10 very carefully.  Slavery is such a foreign concept to us, this probably sounds very harsh.  Keeping in mind that it didn't sound harsh at all to them, what do you think is Jesus' point?
• How do you see yourself in verses 7 through 10?  We talk so much about Jesus being our "brother" or "friend", we tend to forget His is our Lord first.  What sorts of things do you need to do differently considering these verses?

That should be plenty to study Thursday.  We probably won't get beyond the parable, but we're ready if we do.

End-Times Marriage...Or Not

This is the Bible study page for the Thursday Night Study Group meeting August 7 to study 1 Corinthians 7.  There's a ton in this chapter, so we'll get to what we can.  The immanent return of Jesus seems to form the overall background of all that Paul recommends and commands in this chapter.  So this will bring up some interesting questions, I hope.

Read through the chapter several times, in as many translations as you can find.  Look for strange wording or where different versions have truly worded it very differently.  In such places pay careful attention to footnotes.  Jot down observations and questions that come to your mind as you read.  Be sure to bring these to the group.

After reading through several times with your own observations and questions, read through again with those below:

• What sort of 'religious' problems do you think Paul might be using in his reference to 'touch'?  Look at Exodus 19:12,13; Leviticus 11:8, 12:4; Deuteronomy 14:8 for help here.  Can you think of others?
• Why do you think Paul balances references to men and women so evenly here?  What do you think that says about the status of women in their congregation? (consider again, 1 Co 1:11)
• Verse 1 and verse 6 seem to 'bracket' this first section.  So Paul gives this command, but doesn't seem happy about it.  What do you think is Paul's overall view of marriage?
• Paul reveals something of his own 'condition' in verse 7, but points out it has to do with 'gifting'.  On the other hand, he doesn't refer to 'gifting' in verse 9.  Why do you think that is?
• In verse 10, Paul shifts from his own views to those of Jesus.  Where is he now getting these instructions?
• In almost every translation it seems what the wife might do in verse 10 is referred to differently than what the husband does in verse 11.  Why do you think Paul switches terms here?  He's still balanced, but perhaps this gives more detail to the circumstances of women?  (look forward to verse 13)
• Why do you think Paul would speak of reconciliation of the wife, but not the husband?  Which is more restrictive here?
• In verse 12, we have a switch away from commands from Jesus and toward Paul's directives.  Why do you think he would switch up here, and how does that help you gain insight to how we can use Scripture?
• Verse 14 is interesting because it is not really clear how this is true and what it means for the unbelieving spouse and children.  References in Ezra 9:2 and Malachi 2:15 are not especially helpful here since they address a different problem.
• In verse 15 do you think Paul is describing 'divorce' and then those rules apply or simply separation? What then happens to the believing spouse?
• Do you think Paul is switching topics entirely in verse 16 or do you see it somehow related to the previous discussion on marriage and divorce?
• In verse 19, Paul says circumcision is nothing, but yet says keeping the commands of God.  Isn't circumcision a command of God?
• Paul has a special section just for circumcision and slavery.  Why do you think these would be two important issues within the church?
• Paul repeats, 'remain in the condition in which you were called.'  Why do you think this might need repeating in this congregation?
• In verse 25, the same grammatical structure used in verse 1, signalling a change in topic is used.  What do you think that means for my question about verse 16?
• In verses 25 through 28, what is Paul's assumption that forms his opinion here?  How do you think this influences his other references previously in this chapter?
• In verses 29 through 31, how would this look for us?  Do you think this still applies today? If so, how?  What do you think it would look like?
• Paul says his motivation is 'unrestricted devotion to God' (verse 35), what is his view of those who marry?  Do you think this is still true today?
• These references to 'virgin' may actually have to do with giving a daughter in marriage.  What do you think it would mean in that culture to not give the daughter in marriage? (we'd all be guessing here)
• Verses 39 and 40 refer to widows.  Here again Paul thinks 'single is better'.  Why do you think he would 'support' his view by claiming that he too has the Spirit of God?

That should do for now.  We may be able to wade through all this in an hour or so.  But we may not either.  We'll take it as we go.