Tuesday, October 4, 2016

The Surprising Ending...And Vultures

This is the Bible study page for the Thursday Night Bible Study Group meeting October 6 to study Luke 17:20-37.  This is one of three "Little Apocalypses" in the Gospels.  This is Luke's version and it is significantly different than Matthew and Marks.  It might be good to go look at Matthew 24 and Mark 13 after you have read through Luke's version once or twice.

Read through this passage in two very different translations: NIV/KJV, or NLT/NASB, or another combination of a "literal translation" (like ESV, NASB, KJV/NKJV) with an "interpretive translation" (NIV, NLT, RSV).  The point is to see the options within translation, and places where translators struggled with the meaning.  Although, even in literal translations the translators struggled to make sense of what was written.  Make notes and questions as you go through.

Next, look at what commentaries you find.  If necessary, revise your notes and questions.  After that, go through the questions below:
  • The Pharisees ask Jesus when the Kingdom of God will show up.  Why do you think they were asking, considering the things they had seen and heard Jesus do and say?
  • Jesus' response seems to say that the Kingdom of God shows up within people.  Considering the range of translations of verse 21, what do you think Jesus meant?
  • Jesus switches from answering the disciples to speaking to the disciples.  What do you think about the differences between what He tells the disciples (to begin with, v.22 and 23) compared to what He said to the Pharisees?
  • In verse 24, Jesus' description changes to something of a "sudden" event.  To what do you think Jesus refers to as "sudden"?
  • Luke puts Jesus' saying that these things have to happen after His crucifixion.  Why do you think He puts that statement right there?  What point do you think Luke is making?  What point do you think Jesus makes here?
  • In the days of Noah and the days of Lot.  Most commentaries take the very traditional view of the degradation of the societies.  I don't.  Considering the explanation Jesus gives of how the days of Noah and Lot match the days of His coming, what is the correspondence?
  • At verse 31, Luke is missing the reference to the "Abomination of Desolation" used in both Mark and Matthew.  Why do you think such a reference would be missing here?
  • The reference to escaping without stopping for stuff is abbreviated here as opposed to Matthew, so why do you think Luke breezes through it?
  • The statement about saving a life loses it, and losing a life saves it is found in both Matthew and Mark, but the context is different.  Why do you think Luke thought it might belong here?
  • This statement is even found in John (12:25), making it rare indeed.  Why do you think this statement was so important that all four writers made sure it was in their record of Jesus?
  • The statements about 2 being present and one left and one taken is in Matthew.  Reading through his description of the "End", what does this statement tell you about what will happen?
  • The word "will be left" is the same word used for "divorce" and "forgiveness" in both Gospels.  What do you think of that word-choice?
  • Verse 36 is missing from all manuscripts dated before the 5th Century (AD 400).  Why do you think it might have appeared thereafter?
  • Consider verse 37 in light of what Jesus has said in verse 20.  Why, if there will be no "signs" does Jesus tell the disciples to look for "vultures"?  
Consider what this means for us today.  It sounds hard to understand, especially when all the other Gospels have such different sounding accounts of the end.  The point remains though, endure to the surprising ending, whether your own here on earth or of the earth itself.

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